Turkish Article 301

I am not one to keep silent when I see something wrong. So, today, I am writing to ask that you speak out with me on an issue that’s really important.Right now, in Turkey, there is a law called Article 301 that makes it a crime to say or write anything deemed to be “un-Turkish”. Journalists, writers and many others who are vocal are facing trials under this law. In fact this year’s Nobel Prize winner for literature, Orhan Pamuk escaped conviction on a technicality for his mention of the 1 million Armenians living in Turkey who were murdered in the first part of the 20th century.The Turkish Government is not alone in repressing speech. In the Sudan today tens of thousands have been killed and millions more have been driven from their homes. The Sudanese Government will not acknowledge the extent of the tragedy and refuses to protect its own people. Journalists, writers and many others have been jailed for speaking out.I ask that you join me and other Amnesty International members to stand up for free speech. Please send an email to the Turkish government now demanding that they uphold the right to free speech and repeal Article 301 of the penal code. In addition to speaking out against Article 301, I ask that you also take action through Amnesty and demand the protection of the men, women and children in the Sudan.Amnesty’s e-mail actions really do work. In the past 45 years Amnesty has helped not only to release over 45,000 prisoners of conscience but have also helped to both change and abolish unfair laws like Article 301.As a member of Amnesty International, I know I am helping to change the course of history and by taking action, so can you.Thanks for speaking out for human rights!
Serj Tankian of System of a Down
Co-Founder of Axis of Justice


48 Responses to “Turkish Article 301”

  1. 1 Nico November 15, 2006 at 3:12 am

    Article 301 states the following.

    1) A person who publicly denigrates Turkishness, the Republic or the Grand National Assembly of Turkey, shall be punishable by imprisonment of between six months and three years.

    2) A person who publicly denigrates the Government of the Republic of Turkey, the judicial institutions of the State, the military or security organizations shall be punishable by imprisonment of between six months and two years.

    3) In cases where denigration of Turkishness is committed by a Turkish citizen in another country the punishment shall be increased by one third.

    4) Expressions of thought intended to criticize shall not constitute a crime.

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_301_(Turkish_penal_code)

    Yes, this absurd article should be repealed and removed from the books. Its vague language allows for too much interpretation and arbitrary prosecutions. It simply is not needed.

    Apart from this trivia, Orhan Pamuk would almost certainly be acquitted (see paragraph 4 of the article) if a technicality didn’t offer a short way out. Also, the case against Pamuk was launched by a group of independent nationalist lawyers; it wasn’t the work of government per se. (Not to ignore the fact that the presence of Article 301 in the books was the work of this legislature and government.)

    Turkish state and governments have a peculiar way of shooting themselves on the foot. Should Pamuk not be molested as he was, what he said could be effectively critiqued by Turks who disagree with him. Paraphrasing: “One million Armenians and 30 thousand Kurds were killed on this land, and nobody but me dares to speak of it.” First, quite a few other people in Turkey speak of it. It’s a matter of making clear your intentions are pure; no doubt, Turkish nationalists, or many officials for that matter, are a bit too touchy. Second, Pamuk’s juxtaposition of Armenian-Kurdish numbers (I didn’t read the whole interview in question but) sort of suggests he may be drawing parallels between the experiences of these two groups. Such a parallel interpretation might well prove to be a double-edged knife eventually hurting Armenian claims.

  2. 2 NomaD SouL November 19, 2006 at 2:50 pm

    Any articles or official documents do you have about supposedly armenian genocide?Could you prove this supposedly armenian genocide?we have official documents about this bad event(not a genocide).
    [ edited by blog owner – links to potencial virus infected sites – will be removed by me, zum@ ]

  3. 3 qöckhan November 19, 2006 at 3:01 pm

    LAn orospu cocukLarı sisi aLayınısın amını sikim yaraak kafaLıLar..keşke sisin hepinizin amına koyup dograsydıkda buqun bunLar oLmsaydı..yaLakaLar sisi..fransanın köpekLeri.
    sizi fransa sikti die böLe götünüs kaLktı biz sikseydik ananısın amını tersten görürdünüs..ey soad sizi dinLeyen ne kadar türk varsa onLarıda siqiim..köpek sizsiniz kendinizi ne die aLıosunus konserLere sikik yaratıkLar.!

  4. 4 zum November 19, 2006 at 3:08 pm

    NomaD, are you kidding?
    anyhow, this so called genocide on the armenians did happend. i would suggest you read a bit more on history/ politicans who regonised the armenian genocide ( incl american presidents ), and also perhaps study some past turkish leaders who indeed regonised.

    as for your link, i have to remove it.
    thank you for your comment.

  5. 5 NomaD SouL November 20, 2006 at 5:19 am

    No ,I am not kidding,i read our history already.why did you remove the link? the documents on that link are original .Why armenians show some official documents.cos of you don’t have.You’re showed fake pictures etc. to the world.we have many lost by armenians.your showed photos are
    our citizen’s pics. at least most of them.sorry i can’t speak english very well,if i could speak i prove you.most of articles about the supposedly armenian genocide take armenian’s side.good days

  6. 6 zum November 20, 2006 at 10:04 am

    Nomad, ok send me the link to my email and i will look at it. i hope that is fair enough. and then i will post these photos ok?

    but i have to dissagree on the armenian genocide with you. the armenian massacre did happend. there are photos on the internet, where pashas poses with beheaded armenians, heads cut off and layed out as a trophy. there is to much evidence, nomad. historians wrote about the genocide. a german WWI photographer by the name of “Armin T. Wegner” took hundreds of photos of the armenian genocide. here is a pdf link:

    nomad, honestly, why do you think the armenians would lie about such an tragedy? this goes so far back into history, hundreds of years ago. til today, most turkish people aren’t ‘allowed’ to speak out and say ” yes, there was an armenian genocide “, without being punished.

    please read the other side, the armenian side – and do more research. thank you.

    ps: your english is great.

  7. 7 NomaD SouL November 20, 2006 at 4:20 pm

    Do you know,why armenians deported to syria and other places by ottoman empire?
    anyway,, we had many martyr too (by armenians)on this deporting event,so this event wasn’t a genocide,it’s a skirmish.because there was two sides.armenians and turks.and turks had more martyr than armenians in this bad event.
    if there is an armenian genocide ,how can armenians live in turkey in peace?if someone don’t hurt turks,turks don’t hurt anyone.somebody are provoking .Do you know M.Kemal?and do you know his epigram?”Peace in homeland,peace in world”..(original “yurtta barış,cihanda barış”)…we are not barbarians,we just want peace in world.but somebody provoking our citizens and other countries.
    what’s your e-mail adrees,where can i past the document’s link?

  8. 8 NomaD SouL November 20, 2006 at 4:24 pm

    i want to talk about photos are in the link which gave me; people in 1. and 6 pics are turks.armenians didn’t wear “fes” (in english probably “fez”).

  9. 9 Anti-Soad November 20, 2006 at 5:07 pm

    zum..i wanna ask something !
    u are born in germany and ur famiLy comes ukraina..
    why do u interest armenian genocide?

  10. 10 zum November 20, 2006 at 5:16 pm

    Nomad, i know what a “fes/ fez” is (i am half moroccan) :=)

    and i saw some photos of armenians in “fes’s” as well and i was wondering. it perhaps was a mistake on the photo, or my thinking was – perhaps armenians were forced to wear a “fes” which is truly a muslim tradition.

    nomad, you seem like a nice person, and i understand this must be upsetting to you, and it is not your fault. i assume you are not 100 years old.

    but there is to much evidence, read my latest post, written by a NY journalist.
    some people call it a genocide / massacre/ holocaust. which do have slighlty different meanings.

    i have been to turkey, 2x, while i lived in europe and i never had any problems, nor was anyone unpolite to me. it is a beautiful country ( i was in Ankara and Istanbul ).

    but something went wrong in history and forefathers/ ancesters have done something terrible, which can lead turkey as it is right now, to an enemy for many nations, because of the EU, and turkey’s denial of the genocide.

    however, i do understand, if turkey would admit the word
    “genocide”, it could have a very harsh politcal outcome. any country that lead a genocide is set on trial, because a genocide is a war crime against a group/ country/ religion.

    as for the link, you can post it here, i will get it in email automatically. i will just unlink the link, and put it in a non clickable link on my blog here.


  11. 11 zum November 20, 2006 at 5:24 pm

    Anti Soad,

    i was born and raised in munich/ germany, and my ethnic background is half ukrainian/ half moroccan.

    to answer your question, i am very interested in history, it is my passion!
    i have been doing an intense research on numerous “genocides”, from the german genocide/ holocaust, the ukrainian famine/ genocide by stalin, palestinian genocide, to the armenian genocide.
    i wrote many pieces of above mentioned genocide’s, which are currently on my hard drive.
    but in time i will post these as well, write about it. i am a history buff and the internet is a huge library.

    as for right now, i am focusing on armenia. armenia is the neighboring country to my ancesters country, and the culture is very similar to the ukrainian culture.

    i hope this answers your question.


  12. 12 Anti-Soad November 20, 2006 at 5:31 pm

    can u watch it zum ?

  13. 13 zum November 20, 2006 at 5:50 pm

    Anti Soad,

    yes i did watched it, and to me this man seemed to be in a unstable mental condition, who would commit suicide over and over again for Ataturk?

    as a result – he died 2 days after the making of this clip.

    but here is something for you and every other reader, a clip from the just released movie “screamers”.


  14. 14 Anti-Soad November 20, 2006 at 5:50 pm

    ok i can understand u !
    do u know ottoman how caLLed armenian ?

  15. 15 Anti-Soad November 20, 2006 at 5:55 pm

    do u beLieve everything?
    if u beLeive everything,i beLieve u..we dont make armenia genocide ! =)

  16. 16 zum November 20, 2006 at 5:56 pm

    Anti Soad,

    i am not sure if i understand your question?
    did you ment to say ” what ottoman turks calls armenians “? as in name calling?


  17. 17 zum November 20, 2006 at 5:58 pm

    Anti Soad,

    i don’t believe everything. no one does. but the armenian genocide is a fact of history and can’t be denied!

    let me ask you something, do you live in turkey? or are you in amsterdam?


  18. 18 Anti-Soad November 20, 2006 at 6:02 pm

    of course in i Live in turkey..
    meanwhiLe my engiLish is very bad sorry =))
    ottoman give nickname armenain..did u hear it ?

  19. 19 Anti-Soad November 20, 2006 at 6:03 pm

    how can prove genocide ?
    u said:armenian genocide is a fact of history and can’t be denied

  20. 20 zum November 20, 2006 at 6:07 pm

    Anti Soad,

    oh you mean by calling armenians ” terrorists “? yes, of course i saw that and it is unjustified. but i forgive the man, he is dead and he was delusional.


    ps: do you all think that armenians are evil? how do you treat the 1 million armenians who became turks over the centurys? do you think they are the same as 100% armenians or do you look at them as turks?


  21. 21 NomaD SouL November 20, 2006 at 6:08 pm

    ok,here is the web site _http:__//www___devletarsivleri___gov.tr/kitap/__

    But there is only turkish translated document’s for the present.originaly arabic and old turkish.our leader’s don’t attach important to this subject.i wish these documents will translated in english and french.

  22. 22 zum November 20, 2006 at 6:08 pm

    Anti Soad,

    i have posted numerous entries on the ‘armenian genocide’ here in my blog, you can read up on it or perhaps go to http://www.google.com and search for Armenian Genocide.


  23. 23 NomaD SouL November 20, 2006 at 6:13 pm

    sorry i don’t understood zum.”do you think they are the same as 100% armenians or do you look at them as turks?” what does it mean? and if we killed 1 million armenian,world doesnt have any armenian now.do you know armenian populationa in 1915?

  24. 24 NomaD SouL November 20, 2006 at 6:17 pm

    I know zum,i know.. i saw them,but did you pay attention to “turkish government” writing? in 1915 turkish government doesnt have,in 1915 we were ottoman empire.

  25. 25 Anti-Soad November 20, 2006 at 6:29 pm

    hehe =))
    u onLy read armenian history !
    do u know it ?ur reLigion is ban the lie..and teLLs Lie is big sin !
    when ottoman empire,we Live together with armenian and now stiLL we are together.!
    many armenian i recognize..nobody turks is not despise..
    do u know mevLana ceLLaLetini rumi ?
    he said:we love everything to creator.!
    our creator ALLah !

    if i can expLain it very weLL sure u can understand me !

    many foriegn peopLe say us ”barbarian”
    why do u say that?

    ottoman empire is dominate 3 continent..how can accomplish that?if ottoman wanna make genocide now 27 nation is destroy !
    u are interst history of course u know that zum !

    ottoman said to armenian nation is “millet-i sadıka” (sadık millet)”faithful nation” !!

  26. 26 Anti-Soad November 20, 2006 at 6:32 pm

    can i ask u interesting question ?=))
    which type of music do Listen ?

  27. 27 Anti-Soad November 20, 2006 at 6:40 pm

    see u zum ;)
    i am going to bed =))
    good night ;)
    paii paii =))

  28. 28 Anti-Soad November 20, 2006 at 6:57 pm

    u and Like criticize the 301.articLe..
    u know france assembLy accept armenian genocide and add this”nobody say different opinion to this topic..if anybody debate this genocide,france wiLL punish this peopLe”
    i dont say that..of course zum u know that..u interest poLitic =)

    i wanna ask u !
    what is the liberty ?

  29. 29 zum November 20, 2006 at 8:47 pm


    i looked at the photos and i am going to be honest with you – (i am a art major), and some, only some photos looked like they were edited in in photoshop or any other graphic program.

    anyhow, i looked closely, the pictures show a family with their children, dressed and in warm clothes, the female wears a burqa – this family doesn’t seem to be opressed.

    i used a turkish/ english translator, to understand some of the writings next to the photos.

    then there are some photos of dead people, but i did not see one photo as cruel as i saw the starving and nude photos of armenians.

    i am no lover of any government ( i am a free spirit )- therefore if a government website shows any sort of photos of their ” enemy ” – i call this homeland propaganda.

    if bush would post photos of arabs and saying they are evil and killers and show some photos – i would have the same opinion.

    but i will post the pictures here for everyone to see, as promised in my earliar comment.


  30. 30 zum November 20, 2006 at 9:08 pm

    Anti Soad,

    you asked me so many questions, pfff…i will try to answer and summarize.

    foremost, you don’t know my religion, but you assume i am christian. i am not a follower of any religion, because religion is man made and therefore imperfect. however, my father was muslim and my mother was orthodox, and i grew up in a catholic germany. ( it was mandatory due to school )

    i believe and trust in a higher being then me and every living being on this planet rock, yet i am of no traditional faith.
    – – –

    i don’t read only armenian political point of views. i’ve read about turkish point of views just as well, i’ve read on the pasha’s and scholars, ataturk and many many more.
    ( as i’ve told you.. i love reading about history).
    – – –

    what is liberty, you asked me?
    i don’t tink liberty in its true form is existant. to quote a baloch writer ( name unknown )- this is what liberty should be – but it isn’t:

    Quote : Liberty, Peace, Democracy are words which are interpreted differently by different persons. Liberty to one is to not be tied in chains no matter whether his tongue in chained, his thoughts are chained, his ideas are chained, his motherland is chained, his mother tongue is chained, both his present and future are chained but as long as his hands and feet are free he feels himself free and is happy about it. On the other hand, Liberty for another person means a situation where he is free in the real sense of the word. He lives in a democratic country where his linguistic, cultural, historical, religious, and political rights are secured and he is free in the real sense of the word. He is the owner of his present and has the right to choose what course of life he wants to choose for his future.
    – – –

    you asked me what music i listen too?
    i listen to mainly music who give a message to the people, such as ” rage against the machine “, ” system of a down “, ” outernational ” – all music with a political message. i also like to listen to “bjork, nouvelle vague, radiohead, rammstein, NIN, einstuerzende neubauten, the police, paco de lucia, broadcast

    – – –
    i think this will summarize some of your questions you had.
    i would like to tell you also, even tho i appreciate you interest in my personal likes, i prefer to discuss and write about things that matter in this blog, and not let this get out of hands, with a personal agenda about me, the zum.

    thank you for your comments and questions,


  31. 31 Mezzodon November 21, 2006 at 8:16 am

    The comments here are quite silly.

    It is not just Armenian archives that recognize the genocide. It is tought all over the world as part of WWI-era history. In fact, recognizing it as fact is a prerequisite for Turkey’s entry into the European Union – even the rest of Europe knows that it happened. It’s sad that some people would still believe the propaganda from the only government in the world that still denies it.

  32. 32 NomaD SouL November 21, 2006 at 9:08 am

    “do you all think that armenians are evil?” no we don’t.in fact we were like them,live in peace with them.and they had many equity in ottoman empire. then ,armenians who live in the east of turkey,banished to syria and other places.but why we banished them?do you know ?they’ve been provoked by russia and france and england againist ottoman empire(when we are in trouble with russia,armenians’ agency services were increased againist to the ottoman empire.the penalty of this event —treachery to the homeland in a war—is killing )but we dont killed them,we banished them to syria.but they were pampied by russia and exceed to counter attack to the turks. you know ,in 1915 armenians werent have a homeland.russia,england,and france were promised to armenians about they will have a homeland.(did i explain:) ,cant speak very well). Like pkk and some of kurds doing these days to turkiye republic. America (god damn america) promised to the kurds about kurds will have a homeland.

  33. 33 NomaD SouL November 21, 2006 at 9:27 am

    Most of ours (türks) don’t want to enter to the eu.cos of eu isnt useful for worker’s side,media is shows beautiful sides of eu,but eu has a lot of disadvantages.So there are very big political games playing by the capital side.our leaders want eu,but worker’s side don’t
    want eu.

  34. 34 zum November 21, 2006 at 10:19 am

    the kurds fleed turkey to avoid being killed or jailed.
    i knew alot of kurds, while i was living in germany, whom were forced to have a turkish passport.
    i knew of one guy, who’s visa ran out in germany, and germany deported him back to turkey. he told me before he left…he will die as soon as he gets back to turkey. this was in the mid 1980’s.
    i’ve never heard of him again!
    kurds are spread out everywhere, without a land of their own. living mostly in iran, or europe.
    where did you get the information from, that the US and A promised kurds a landof their own???

  35. 35 NomaD SouL November 21, 2006 at 11:49 am

    when ottoman empire was moving away to the east,some of our citizens starts riot by provoking powers.kurds were helped to our padisah “yavuz sultan selim”,when we were in independence war,kurds helped to M.Kemal.we were live with them in peace too like armenians.turkiye has a very powerful army for defence the homeland.in çanakkale forehead,M.Kemal has said that. “they will go,like they came” – geldikleri gibi giderler-. and we defenced our country succesfully.we had got a very little army againist greece,england,germans,russia….but we did,we defenced with god’s help.so the countries which feel oneself capable of turkiye,will not enter türkiye with normal ways(with war)..so our enemies will provoking somebodies againist turkiye for seperating turkiye.do you know kurdistan,kurds’s desire is kurdistan.kurdistan’s borders are in turkey’s border.nearly turkey’s half.

    “where did you get the information from, that the US and A promised kurds a landof their own”
    I watch and read neutral media.not watchin capitalist media.media is very powerful weapon againist enemies.you must watch this documentary film ” revolution doesn’t broadcast on televisions”(or similar name,i can’t translate.), about venezuella and hugo chavez,so you can see the media’s power.
    anyway,is michael moor (i think i write wrong his name:) fahrenheit 9/11’s director.)living :)? i liked his style.

  36. 36 zum November 21, 2006 at 12:28 pm

    i, too, read mainly underground media, independent media ( to bad the governement shut “indymedia” down. i always thought their articles on world views were good and provoking. media can be a evil “medium”. i certainly don’t watch any american tv (ABC etc…) red state propaganda channels. because its trash and nothing but idiotic american homeland security propaganda.
    kurdistan belongs to the kurds. why would turkey take the land of the rightous owners? the kurds. kurdish and armenian culture is so similar to turkish culture aside the religious aspect of christianity and islam. but all have pretty much the same family values and are proud of their herritage.
    michael moore’s “fahrenheit 9/11″ was a interesting movie but also biased on his own opinions. of course most americans didn’t liked his documentary at all.
    now i have to ask you, where is your stand? you somewhat contradict yourself a bit, at one time you say ” kurds and turks” get along, but in the next sentence you curse at america for not getting a “land” to the kurds.
    if you could give me a link to the website where you read about ” america promised to give land to the kurds”, i would like to read upon that.

  37. 37 NomaD SouL November 21, 2006 at 12:58 pm

    “kurdistan belongs to the kurds. ” why do you thinking about this? in our land we living in peace. turks have a classical speech.” turks,kurds,armenians,circassians,lazs are brothers in our homeland,who are seperating these race are fickle/treacherous”
    i havent got any links,but i can say resources, “sol,komünist,ulusal tv,meltem tv,and some a lots of underground sites,.(but i dont save,i find them when i surfing),www-yesil-org ( banned and closed ).if you come turkey,you must see “mersin”. kurds are almost captured the city,everyday minimum one citizens murdering by kurds.why they did,what happened to our brotherhood.in the east of turkey everyday we lost minimum one soldier by pkk.(a terror organization who founded by abdullah öcalan,so they are kurds) turks supported this sentence” turks,kurds,armenians,circassians,lazs are brothers in our homeland,who are seperating these race are fickle/treacherous” but they don’t. and i hate them now.most of them are uneducated.they were happy in our land,why they are bad now,why are they betreyal to our land.

  38. 38 NomaD SouL November 21, 2006 at 1:09 pm

    in categories part; i saw a title which named “stupid people”.i looked at,and i saw our.why? this is a very big insult to our people.

  39. 39 zum November 21, 2006 at 1:34 pm


    you say you seperate the “turks,kurds,armenians,circassians,lazs are brothers in our homeland,who are seperating these race are fickle/treacherous

    this is pretty racist! kurds have been without a country of their own for a long time. of course they will be rebellious. and to say they don’t have any education? what makes you say this? every, and i mean EVERY armenian i know, is extremly intelligent, very well versed in all cultural aspects!

    have you ever sat down with a real armenian not a “turkified” one and talked about historical events? i don’t think you have, otherwise you would think different.

    as you said ” turks,kurds,armenians,circassians,lazs are brothers in our homeland,who are seperating these race are fickle/treacherous” but they don’t. and i hate them now

    hate is bad! you should focus your energy on finding the REAL TRUTH, from writers, historians, not just turkish propaganda websites. and if you can’t provide me a website where you’ve read about “americans promised kurds their own land” ( which i know – americans have not promised ), i can’t take your arguement seriously.

    i work in my blog on FACTS, not some ” i’ve read, i’ve heard, but i don’t have the adress anymore “. there is no value to your arguement.

    as for my section called ” stupid people ” – this is my opinion, not just for turks but many ignorant people walking on this planet.

  40. 40 NomaD SouL November 21, 2006 at 2:30 pm

    “this is pretty racist! kurds have been without a country of their own for a long time. of course they will be rebellious.” yes,you’re right but there are another races in turkiye ,like lazs,circassians etc. and they haven’t got any country,and they are happy,kurds were too…rebelliousness unnecessary.i were advocate the kurds by last year.but i watch some videos on youtube®,and i afraid of them.they’re blustering swearwords to turks.videos are about pkk,kurds and kurdistan.

    “this is pretty racist” no i am not racist.me and my acquaintances want to peace,equality and corporation/unity(whatever) in my country.

    kurds were happy,but now? isnt there any problem in your opinion ?

    i didnt any armenian(but my friend’s friend’s grandfather were an armenian,and he think armenians are wrong about this supposedly armenian genocide.)

    sorry i can’t find any english links :(
    there is a turkish web site
    but there is a link(i can not translate all of the article)

  41. 41 NomaD SouL November 21, 2006 at 2:33 pm

    and i found this link, http-//www-socialistworker-org/2003-1/446/446_06_Kurds-shtml
    maybe you find an information

  42. 42 zum November 21, 2006 at 3:21 pm


    thank you, i will look at these above mentioned web sites.


  43. 43 NomaD SouL November 22, 2006 at 10:23 am

    thank you .

  44. 44 zum November 22, 2006 at 2:58 pm


    no problem. i have been a little busy in real life here. as you may know, america celebrates “thanksgiving day” tomorrow. which is a terrible day for the other “turkey” the animal – because they kill millions of turkey’s to eat on thanksgiving


  45. 46 Oguz tolga December 5, 2006 at 7:22 am

    Ah Mr Tankian the clown,what do you say about the French parliement’s dedicion about your tale”so called genocide”
    that nobody is allowed to say”no, there was no armenian genocide”.
    In case we will put him in jail for 6months and fine him 45.000euros.
    Funny guys.You have many things to learn from us.We have been living all together for 2000years.Islam Christianity and Judaism.But you dont want to even hear our voice in europe and Armenia.Let me ask you “why armenian government do not open the armenian files”.have they been eaten by the rats or something.
    free speec ha..)
    In Turkish we say..I eat eat your free speech :=))speeces.

  46. 48 DRUMMER December 5, 2006 at 1:02 pm

    Allah sizin gibilerin belasını versin boşu boşuna Türklerle uğraşmayın olm siz bizler kadar asil ve iyi bir millet olsaydınız ona buna köpeklik yapmazdınız Atamıza laf etmek sizin gibi pisliklere mi kalmış kirletmeyin bizim adımızıda o pis ağzınızla!!!
    şerefsizler siktirin gidin kendi pisliklerinizi temzileyin!!!
    Gerçek olmayanların gerizekalı savunucuları siz göreceksiniz gününüzü a.q.

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